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Trance

Posted: Apr 24th, '18, 18:56
by Crockett
Another electronic music genre with its own soul, where every song remains an anthem. Touching deeply melodies, gradually increasing long instrumental parts, effective introductions from the moments of silence, a lot of emotional sounds that are a fest for a listener.

Next genre you can dance normally on the dancefloor, because BPM is here the last important thing.

Literally in all meanings the opposite for most of Eurobeat produced since 20 years.


youtu.be/6vab38na-f4

Re: Trance

Posted: Apr 24th, '18, 19:21
by Kat

Re: Trance

Posted: May 6th, '18, 20:00
by SuperEuroJimmy
I like trance a lot, but I'm more a fan of the hands-up kind of style. Think Cascada. That doesn't mean some good Gouryella every now and then isn't welcome. :D

This is one of my favorites (:

youtu.be/MbDevJJR28U

Re: Trance

Posted: May 7th, '18, 08:47
by alpines
SuperEuroJimmy wrote:
May 6th, '18, 20:00
I like trance a lot, but I'm more a fan of the hands-up kind of style. Think Cascada. That doesn't mean some good Gouryella every now and then isn't welcome. :D
Oh then you should come to the easterrave at Oberhausen, Germany.
It's annually always at the easter sunday and they always have a good lineup.

I was there 2015 and 2017 and especially last year the lineup was crazy.
Special D., Master Blaster, ItaloBrothers, aquagen, 89ers, pulsedriver, Empyre One, Basslovers United, Sunset Project and many more.

The atmosphere is crazy and you will almost only hear Hands Up on the dance area.

Re: Trance

Posted: May 7th, '18, 18:58
by SuperEuroJimmy
Oooh, interesting! Especially since I live under an hour drive from Oberhausen! Thanks for the heads-up, even though I will probably forget it for next year ehehe.

Re: Trance

Posted: May 8th, '18, 03:54
by Bonkers
One of my top trance tracks


youtu.be/Y9_ZCMtFjMA

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 24th, '18, 14:50
by Crockett
Hands Up is very cheerful, just more commercial for crowd.

Real Trance has already gone 10 years ago and it is the history of electronic music, also Hands Up with its roots in 2002.

Some nice events still are held, true.

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 24th, '18, 20:59
by alpines
Crockett wrote:
Sep 24th, '18, 14:50
Real Trance has already gone 10 years ago and it is the history of electronic music, also Hands Up with its roots in 2002.
What is "Real Trance" in your opinion?

From what I hear there are still plenty of producers out ranging from Hard, Uplifting, Progressive, Full On, all to Vocal Trance.
Generally the trend went more towards EDM / Big Room music and they call it Trance which is just flat out wrong.

But to say that it is gone is just wrong too because it is still there as it was years before, just not that prominent anymore because many new genres have emerged and the audience has strayed towards them - that's something unavoidable, it had to happen eventually.

Same goes for Hands Up, the listener count for radio stations like technobase.fm has dropped dramatically (to 1/10 in around ~8 years) and probably won't rise anymore. I stopped listening to Hands Up four years ago since my playlist didn't expand any further because I went through the years and mostly stuck with the old stuff except some new stuff which rarely added some new songs.

Thankfully this is not the case for me with EB and HT (we still have Independent/Doujin Euro and Techno if Avex fails us)

To the events:
I can only advise people to buy tickets for easterrave, the atmosphere is just breathtaking when the crowd goes wild.
It may not be a huge stage on the dance floor (the biggest there) but it is crushing nonetheless.
Always a nice treat to hear good Hands Up tunes once a year for me again.

The line up will be posted artist by artist starting Q4 2018. (Should start anytime soon!)
I will try my best to free up some time to make it there!

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 24th, '18, 23:21
by Crockett
alpines wrote:
Sep 24th, '18, 20:59
What is "Real Trance" in your opinion?

From what I hear there are still plenty of producers out ranging from Hard, Uplifting, Progressive, Full On, all to Vocal Trance.
Generally the trend went more towards EDM / Big Room music and they call it Trance which is just flat out wrong.
It seems that Trance lovers who danced or collected records in the period 1998 - 2004, today recognize a decline of this original genre. I still read the comments that pure Trance isn't produced anymore, only transformed and contaminated by EDM and first of all Progressive House. You can hear similarities and former elements, but nothing more.

Average every 5-7 years some trends disappeared in Europe together with independent genres. Nobody tried to change the style of club genre drastically and a few times over the years, simultaneously using the same name of original genre.

Exactly, the trend went towards something else and Trance became underground. If a producer/DJ creates and plays according to next mainstream fashion, it's done for money, to stay on the commercial market.

Too many producers abandoned not only Trance but any previous electronic genres. I really doubt they all lost ideas, rather they don't want to make music for new audiences and chase new tastes, although they keep attending in events. The fans of actual age of Trance popularity in early 2000's are strongly related with the sound back then, and they aren't interested further discography influenced EDM or House just because the same artist remains active...

Those people expect true passionate sound not news to fulfil the playlist. They are fully aware they won't buy anymore real Trance. Between 2004 and 2008 they might've purchased some good stuff yet.

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 27th, '18, 03:26
by xiao
★ Remo-con & Boss make some awesome trance too ~ ✨


youtu.be/Oe2KXWZwo_g

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 27th, '18, 16:36
by Crockett
This song is nice. But welcome back in Japan.

I wouldn't call it real nor pure Trance created and developed in Europe.

I feel we have here uncommon high BPM, actually I find here more Eurobeat influence than any even Progressive Trance.

Is this max. lenght version ? If yes, it betrays again next contemporary trend - make a track under 5 minutes and cut any progress of melody, 30 seconds of uplifting mood is enough for fans in 2018.

Well, because it's not real/pure Trance.

Still good one.
xiao wrote:
Sep 27th, '18, 03:26
★ Remo-con & Boss make some awesome trance too ~ ✨


youtu.be/Oe2KXWZwo_g

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 27th, '18, 17:50
by xiao
Crockett wrote:
Sep 27th, '18, 16:36
Is this max. lenght version ?
Good question! I think this is the radio edit of that song .. there might be an extended Y&Co. only plays at shows tho :o

Here's another song feat. Max Collins from Eve 6 with trance elements I really like!٩(◕‿◕)۶ ~ ♪


youtu.be/0Eao_pUenkw

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 27th, '18, 20:42
by alpines
Crockett wrote:
Sep 27th, '18, 16:36
I wouldn't call it real nor pure Trance created and developed in Europe.
You're right because it's actually Hands Up (imo) just without vocals. BPM is 145 which would fit right in there (140~145 sometimes even 150) since both genres can sometimes blend seemlessly into each other.
Why does it matter where it was produced though? Does it make it less good by being produced on the other side of the world?

You want some good trance? Here's some Hard Trance (made in Japan) remixed in Germany. One of my favorites:

youtu.be/6sNzSscxKY8

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 27th, '18, 21:16
by Crockett
alpines wrote:
Sep 27th, '18, 20:42
Why does it matter where it was produced though? Does it make it less good by being produced on the other side of the world?
No no... The sound of folllowing song is conspicuous if we look back at german Trance.

I guess I would've not known any Trance if not Germans back in 1999-2004. Their contribution is priceless in my opinion.

Isn't it for Japanese only an imported genre ? Not like Eurobeat but really, a stuff they just buy copyrights for and put on their limited releases as popular Cyber Trance series ? Have they ever heard in Japan at least a half of Trance made in Europe ?

Re: Trance

Posted: Sep 27th, '18, 23:37
by Bonkers
It's that way with every genre: It's not "real" ________ anymore.

There isn't any genre today that sounds exactly like it's 90s predecessor. I think everyone has certain "eras" of a particular genre they hold high above all other years, and will argue up and down that what's new isn't "like it use to be!"