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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by vinyl12 » Dec 16th, '17, 13:46

I posted a seperate topic about sales data of the series.

Looking back through charts, I found that there was a time when non-stop mixes sold more than regular releases...

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by M2-EB » Dec 16th, '17, 13:47

alpines wrote:
Dec 16th, '17, 10:02
The general trend with lesser sales for each and each album is also partially the fault of music streaming services.
People don't buy physical discs or even mp3s anymore because they can have it all with just around $10 a month.
(Sometimes even for free when it comes bundled with a new phone and a mobile plan)
Errrrrr........... no?
Don't be naive. Sales dropped to these ridiculous amounts after all the f*ckery big A have been doing these last years. Eurobeat was always streamed. YouTube exists since late 2005, there's eurobeat songs there as old as 2007~8. And before that, many P2P services… Internet's been around since the 90's. They had over 25 years to find a way to get around it. In more recent news, instead of making Super Eurobeat more accessible, they prohibited shipping overseas, for example. They played themselves. :|
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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by alpines » Dec 16th, '17, 13:55

M2-EB wrote:
Dec 16th, '17, 13:47
Don't be naive. Sales dropped to these ridiculous amounts after all the f*ckery big A have been doing these last years. Eurobeat was always streamed. YouTube exists since late 2005, there's eurobeat songs there as old as 2007~8. And before that, many P2P services… Internet's been around since the 90's. They had over 25 years to find a way to get around it. In more recent news, instead of making Super Eurobeat more accessible, they prohibited shipping overseas, for example. They played themselves. :|
I didn't say it's solely to that fact, it surely played a role too but the biggest influence was probably Avex themselves.

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by vinyl12 » Dec 16th, '17, 14:11

Bigger Japanese companies are reluctant to change their ways and Avex is not an exception. There's a Japanese agency that even refuses to make YouTube channels or stream its artists' songs through iTMS...

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by M2-EB » Dec 16th, '17, 14:38

Like I said, they took the safest, more reasonable route. It doesn't mean it was the best option…
I don't think something good can come out of reluctance or fear even more if we're talking business here. "Go big or go home" isn't that the saying?
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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by Bonkers » Dec 16th, '17, 19:05

People like their non-stops :P

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by M2-EB » Dec 16th, '17, 19:08

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People like their non-stops :P
TBH nonstops are my favorite SEBs too. I still listen 240 almost weekly such a good album :grin:
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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by Bonkers » Dec 16th, '17, 19:35

M2-EB wrote:
Dec 16th, '17, 19:08
Bonkers wrote:
Dec 16th, '17, 19:05
People like their non-stops :P
TBH nonstops are my favorite SEBs too. I still listen 240 almost weekly such a good album :grin:
Boss really did a good job with 240. It would be awesome to see Shu & Gun return for 250.

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by Anthony McBazooka » Dec 17th, '17, 18:52

I talked about the topic in my VLOG today:

youtu.be/EvD5LfpaABU
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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by JeffreySoftbark » Dec 18th, '17, 17:24

xiao wrote:
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& Eurobeat's far from dead ~ cheer up!♫
Well I know it's not dead I'm just gonna miss Super Eurobeat is all :/

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by M2-EB » Dec 18th, '17, 19:37

JeffreySoftbark wrote:
Dec 18th, '17, 17:24
xiao wrote:
Dec 16th, '17, 02:12
Youth .. is all in the heart my friend ~ Image

& Eurobeat's far from dead ~ cheer up!♫
Well I know it's not dead I'm just gonna miss Super Eurobeat is all :/
I still miss Eurobeat Flash, Euromach and Maharaja Night series tremendously, they ended too soon IMO and I listen whenever I can. SEB will be no different, the legacy is everlasting :) And you won't be alone in this.
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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by drnrg » Dec 19th, '17, 02:05

maybe they (producers)will all join up with FLASHBACK Records and start making Italo. Flashback Records is TIME Machine Records Parent label. You already have Newfield, Festari, Moroni, Fred Ventura. Other labels have Tom Hooker, Brian Ice. They relase music onec in a while, but I think it would be gtreat of the Eurobeat labels merged with the Italo ones and kept making the music for the fans. Fuck AVEX. THis also gives the labels more creativity freedom.

oh and on a final note. FUCK nonstops too.

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Re: Regarding Super Eurobeat 250

Post by Bonkers » Dec 19th, '17, 04:37

xiao wrote:
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★ I highly miss Euromach & We Love TechPara ..

But somehow ~ I think that business isn't the reason SEB was cancelled. I just think that the people making it, from Avex to the Studios - Producers - & Artists, fell out of love for it. Like Newfield or Hyper Techno or the SEPH podcast .. people that love something, do it regardless of time & money, or they find a way to do it ~ when there's a will, there's a way.

I just think they found new tastes & grew up .. like Peter Pan and forgot about Neverland .. about SEB. ♪
2014-2016 Hi-NRG Attk all had the same vocal patterns and same B-Melos. 3B has had a drastic change from their Domino/Dream of You/Now & Forever days. Dima....well, I think his talents could serve him well in other genres. I wonder who decided that no more tracks should be 160 bpm +, Avex or the producers?

I feel these attributes though greatly affected interest.

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